The Workin’ Man Podcast

I am from Leslie county Kentucky . all my ancestors are from that area and they were coal miners. (yeah, I’m old) . The UMW and john lL lewis were institutions . that has changed now. Like other unions they became democrats first and unionist last. the UMW, UAW and steelworkers unions have no business in the same party as the sierra club and Greenpeace.They figured out too late that the greens wanted Kentucky and west Virginia to be uninhabited national parks. Yellowstone of the east so to say.That is why west Virginia voted fro trump by a bigger margin than any other state. because the dem greens and race hustlers and GOP globalists have both abandon middle america. and they know it.

You have already triggered the republican horde I see.Muh cops! Muh soldiers! Muh constitutional! Muh rule of law!Worship of state functionaries is a result of being one of the most heavily propagandized populations on earth. The messages that an inattentive white person receives are very uniformI pretty much only go to breitbart to troll the semi-redpilled republican horde. I don’t know that this is the right technique to convert souls to a real rightism, but it’s pretty much what got my attention.I got to where I am today from following Derb to takimag, and then propmptly being aghast at the comment section there.

Look up the YouTube videos of the nurse in Salt Lake City, who was just arrested for denying the cops an illegally requested blood sample from an accident victim. I’m basically pro-cop, but there are a lot of cops in SLC that need to lose their jobs or worse, from the scumball that went apeshit on her, to the supervisor that treated her like a ten year old, as he wrongly told her she was wrong when she was right, to the other cops who didn’t intervene when the scumball did his thing. The small talk between the cops, caught on the body cam recordings, is inexcusable.

I follow your blog and have read it almost daily for the last year or so. I like your writing. I’ve been a policeman for 20 years. First, I should say I think you are correct that a lot of cops are overweight, that the job attracts authoritarian personalities and that a contributor to the problem stems from cops who treat citizens like they are inmates. I also think it is healthy for a society to distrust authoritarian institutions of any type, particularly the police. I also think the left has taken its long march directly to the Police and Military and many of the abuses that you and I would agree on have their origins in the infiltration of the Justice Department and major metropolitan police agencies by the intellectual and political arms of the left.However, I don’t think you should take shelter behind your broad brush gets paint on everyone rationalization. This is just sloppy thinking. First of all, this Norman Rockwellesque nostalgia for the double brass button cop who walked the beat, sort of ignores that this same jolly guy would knock your teeth out with a lead weighted leather strap if you so much as looked at him sideways. Also, if you read about the beginnings of the Metropolitan police in England and the New England/New York police services, you find a very deep seated (and wise) mistrust and history of violence towards the police and policing institutions.I guess on another level, I try very hard to do a good job and treat people the way I would like to be treated and have for a very long time. I see some police who don’t (have arrested some in fact) but not very many. I resent and dispute a lot of your characterizations of me and the people I work with every day. Would I risk my livelihood, house, car, school tuition and families happiness to protect the rights of an individual? Perhaps, but its kind of a big ask..no? The question becomes one of effectiveness. If I can stop an antifa mob singlehandedly, I might as well go slap cuffs on George Soros and skip the small fry. Regardless, its a lot easier to do for someone who isn’t painting me as a shithead and is going to have a cow if I put on a helmet.To which point, I also don’t see us driving around in armored vehicles every day (or even every month in a city of 400K) and I have never seen anyone in any capacity other than a bomb squad wearing “full body armour”. Yeah, its nice to have a bearcat when you have to go scoop up a wounded guy in sight of some maniac with a scoped rifle. Its also nice to have shinguards when a crowd of yahoos is throwing pieces of the pavement at you. On balance, I feel like some of the discomfort with that is pretense. Some of it is based in the same kind of lack of familiarity and precision I read from gun grabbers about “high powered” assault weapons. Having served in the military for decades, I also recognize some of it as a lack of understanding that the military has adopted a lot of gear that was first used by the police.At any rate, its a good and timely subject and you seem more open to debate than most, so there you go.

Tyranny is probably established out of no other regime than democracy. Plato.Today he would say: Tyranny is probably established out of no other regime than the mind-meld between Big Corporate and Big Government.

Z man;In honor of Labor Day: Probably many of your readers are not old enough to recall the days when unions actually were actually well worth belonging to. But then they outsourced their value added to the US Govt. under LBJ. Retrospectively, this was a huge mistake.I recall I and my brothers and our (local -there were no other kinds at the time) friends’ experiences in the early-mid ’60s. We were then just summer workers and so had limited skin in the long-term industrial relations game.But it was obvious to us all at the time that working in a union factory was way safer and way more long-term more economically secure (via union pension and health insurance plans for our long time co-workers) than working in a non-union factory. I was then an involuntary (but not objecting) member of the Machinist Union during the summer of ’66. This union was a nearly CPUSA (Communist Party USA) subsidiary at the time and I was already a US Nationalist (but didn’t know it – future military officer). But, at that time, they provided real value to real US workers. And then they signed over their value to Big G under LBJ.

I remember doing some work at a police station many years ago when they were preparing for one of their first swat raids that night. The glee and exuberance a few of the young ones displayed there was something to behold. All that was missing was a pep talk from Knute Rockne to complete the pregame event.

The fanatics hate and are at war with the past because they hate competitors. They want to erase a civilisational memory that things could ever be different. I remember my time in the matrix and how much it obliterated my imagination. It never occurred to me it was possible biological racial differences were real because my culture made it unimaginable. The more you erase the past the more you are intellectually chained to the dominant ideology of the present. Just like Orwell suggested.

The modern American police forces are designed to protect and serve…. their pensions, and by extension, the bureaucrats who fund them. They are essentially a private army, much like Caesar’s legions, who’s first priority is to the hand that feeds. This has been apparent to me for many years (I have several extended family members with the Chicago PD; and I have some pretty infuriating stories) but in the wake of Berkeley and Cville, it should be coming clear to anyone with half a clue. No police officer is going to risk their pension for something as trivial as upholding the law or protecting regular people from the violence of politically protected street gangs. But they will happily generate revenue for their masters by harassing normies who exceed arbitrary speed limits and BACs going to and from work. The fun question is what happens when the public pensions have finally been robbed of their last dollar and these police come to realize they will be left with nothing.Just as an aside – I don’t consider freedom of association to be a libertarian issue. It’s a constitutional issue. We aren’t talking about some dude’s “right” to smoke pot or view pornography or whatever. It’s the basic idea that I don’t have to be friends with, or do business with, or be educated by, or live near the growing number of depraved and degenerate groups of people who prefer that i hand over a large percentage of my income to them before me and everyone like me dies.

If the US ever adopts the metric system, would that move labor day to may 1st? 🙂

I’m not dismissing your concerns about police — Sure DoE does not need a tactical team; and some police can act like typical jerk government bureaucrats. But whenever we find ourselves on the same side of an issue as Sloppy Williamson, Eric Erikson, and Reason Magazine, we should pause and check our bearings.This issue seemed to have peaked with the Ferguson riots and images of police in military gear confronting the “peaceful” demonstrators who had been whipped-up into a frenzy of race hatred by the fake news networks. The progs and deranged libertarians thought the mass of the country was sympathetic to the rioters. Hence the “Mothers of the Movement” appearing onstage at Hilary’s convention.But politically, it’s a looser issue. Trump was astute enough to notice that when norms see police confronting rioters, the norms take the side of the police – even if the police are decked-out in military-style riot gear.“Law and Order” is a winning message. “The Conservative Case for Race Riots” is not.When the norms see rioters burning, beating, and destroying property, they don’t want to see the rioters given “room to destroy.”The norms want the police to busting heads. They want to see rioters in hand cuffs, weeping from pepper spray. Reagan knew it; Nixon knew it; Trump knows it.If we want police reform, better to focus on issues like “Why are they letting antifa burn, beat, and riot?” “Who is ordering the cops to stand-down, and why?” Pulling the string on that issue will probably embarrass some democrats and rally the norms.Most cops are good guys; and I’ll bet most of them are still on our team.

Police aren’t even in the top 10 most dangerous professions. Provided they don’t shoot themselves, They get to retire at 55 with a nice six figure pension and bennies for life. The rest of us schlubs have to depend on our 401K’s until we hit 67.and then get some SSI.The reason people don’t respect the polices is because they treat everyone like criminals and are pretty much above the law when they abuse their authority. There are more than enough documented and videotaped cases of police just wrecking people for some minor offense like skateboarding or that lady walking on the Los Angeles Freeway whom a cop decided to beat senseless for sport. Or maybe the woman who approached a police cruiser in her nightgown and was executed by a cop because it made him nervous. The cops treated the victim’s family like hardened criminals.Or how about this one, it just happened:http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-01/infuriating-police-arrest-duty-nurse-refusing-break-lawAll his buddy cops just stood around and let it happen. Scumbags and cowards with guns.She should sue him and the department for millions. and the hospital should join in the suit against the city and alll officers for terrorizing their employees.

Zman you mention lawfare in your corporatism segment. I’ve noticed before you’ve suggested that the courts will be able to be used against the left (sorry, can’t place the particular example)…why would you believe in the current judicial environment a judge would come down on the side of say, stormfront? Do you think the ultra left legal system cares about rule of law more than eradicating stormfront? Seems unlikely to me.

One word for this edition: Excellent

A one-time east-bloc communist official quipped the hardest thing about communism was trying to predict the past. Our communist seem to have a better grip on re-writing the past. This is the talent of democratic communism. The Leninists let you know who your master was, our masters have you believing you are part of the gang.

Not just you, Z, the ‘militant’ attitude from LE in flyover country is becoming more prevalent too. Last summer an old guy came to the shop I manage and got salty about a voucher. He became loud and started disturbing the other customers, so I told him he needed to calm down. He kept yelling so I finally told him to go home or I’d have to call the PD. He left, but came back 10 minutes later and started yelling again, so I put in a call – belligerent customer.Within 5 minutes a deputy pulls up, I explain the issue, so he goes and talks with the old guy, who quickly calms down and offers an apology. It’s all good, I know both if these guys. Problem solved. Next thing you know, there is a row of 14 police cars, trucks and vans out front blocking traffic, lights flashing and cops barking everywhere, some of them had vests and rifles. You talk about scaring away customers. I may as well have called the Marines. My call about a “belligerent customer” somehow turned into a mythical shooting situation.I get the desire to take precautions, but whatever happened to verifying your facts before charging in locked and loaded? The growing paranoia and fear among people are simply manifestations of something more sinister at work. Some of these guys I grew up with, but they have grown distant. Should the powers that be ever get their way and turn the police into a federal force, I expect the few remaining local Andy Griffiths we have will be replaced with migrant roid raging jackboots. It will represent a complete takeover by the cloud and their nameless, faceless occupying army.

…bums does not mean the same in Canada, UK and antipodes, the discussion on the bum problem and the bums who ‘bummed up’ was hilarious.

Just a technical note – There are almost no poisonous snakes. However there a hell of al ot of venomous snakes.

Plenty to chew on here. In my business the cops are reliable allies and I have a great relationship with the city PD. We have, societally, outsourced a lot of what should be our internal security to the police. Much of that is a consequence of legal protections–private security is very limited in what they can do in places of business open to the public.As for the militarization, it instinctively rubs me the wrong way, too. And then we see pictures of squad cars being smashed to pieces by the feral indigenous population in cities (like Baltimore) that have these robocops and it gets really tough to defend.I want to argue that if the state has the ability to use force, it needs to have a monopoly on force. Having the state compete with local groups in the distribution of violence is a bad thing. The cops need to be in it to win it when they get in it at all. So they equip themselves to be able to win. And then they let the hoodlums destroy blocks and blocks at a time.

When you get some lawyer hate going I’ll write a long post about how “not all lawyers X”.

The RSS feed for your podcast is at: http://www.spreaker.com/user/9935466/episodes/feed The spreaker download link there actually works. The direct link gives an ‘access denied’ error message, presumably becauser Spreaker sucks.

A couple of nits to pick. The Pullman strike was in 1894, when Cleveland was president, not Coolidge, whom you mentioned as possibly president at the time. He came 30 years later. Also, according to what I found on Wikipedia about race questions on the census, there was not a census in which Irish or Italians would have been classified as non-white.You mentioned Judith Butler’s book, “Gender Trouble.” I actually tried to read that once. It is one of the worst heaps of intellectual rubbish that I have ever encountered, even compared with the bits and pieces of victim-studies clap-trap that I have come across.I look forward to your podcasts.

“Dana Plato” daughter of Plato – ROFL. Sounds like you’ve been imitating Cochran regarding subtle cultural references. BTW she died at 33 from multidrug intoxication.

Canada does SO have power…although I am only 45 mins away from the Del Bonita border.Oh, and thanks for all the smoke. “Smoke” is now a part of our weather forecast lexicon.

Another excellent podcast Z, but . . . . . . . have to take exception about the bad cop thing. The only interaction 90% of the people will have with police is getting a speeding ticket.It’s a lousy feeling. Police officers get tickets too. There are some state troopers out there that take pride in ticketing even their own mother 🙂And the used military equipment is laughable. Most departments pass on this so-called “surplus ” . Nobody wants a Vietnam era M4 with a shot out barrel that looks like it’s been stored in the bottom of boat.The antifa idiots that descended upon Boston Commons didn’t find their intended victims and instead turned their attention to those “fat Boston cops in riot gear ” throwing piss, rocks and bottles. ( now that helmet with the face shield doesn’t look so stupid . )Boston PD arrested 34 of these maggots and predictably it never made the 6 o’clock news.I’m on your side Z, but the fat comments ? Hurtful just hurtful 😉Keep up the good work !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EwK0NsKdDY

https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/inwardempirepodcast/episodes/2016-06-30T15_03_05-07_00 Podcast on the pullman strike above. Second episode below.https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/inwardempirepodcast/episodes/2016-12-23T20_33_28-08_00

I don’t know you, but I’ve gone through and read a few of your comments. I say a few because you’ve posted so many, 20 comments is just a scratch on the surface. The sheer amount of your contributions to one website alone tells me all I need to know about you. Next, you and everyone else on this website are a bunch of fluffy cowards. That’s why everything is so anonymous on this website. You all can feel at home with each other as pussies, going on about shit you perceive to be wrong with the world, but really it’s just your specific & personal realities as grown man bitches. You’ve probably been considered lame & a loser your entire life and cannot take it out on white men because they’re your only allies, not on white women because you’re still praying that one day one of them might fuck you, and not on black women because you’re probably too busy fantasizing about fucking them as you call them your sweet nigger to hate them.So you come on here and take it out on the one group of people who are everything you wish you could be. Everything your puny little minds are programmed to hate as you could never be this way. Creative, innovative, respected, talented, beautifully made, attractive, stylish, charismatic, and highly sought after. You hide behind your education & use that as catapults to help hike you up onto your high horses, as if your equally pathetic ancestors didn’t set this land up to be that exact way for you, the same way you will make sure your descendants will continue to have a leg up as well. & the reason for this? Because without such emphasis being put on intellect & finances, you’d have to fend for yourselves, competing with the brightest and most creative minds, all stored in the world’s most physically superior frames.Basically without the help of your fellow white man of the present, past, and future alike, you’d be infinitely more lame than you already fucking somehow are. Newsflash: black men don’t hate you because you’re white, but because you’re a piece of shit. There are endless white men who we as black people love and appreciate. If you can’t beat em, join em, or in your case type up about 6k posts over the span of almost a decade dedicated to crying about how much we all hate you. Your way seems more miserable, but I’m not surprised as nerdy white men such as yourself seem to love living that way. You live in a world almost exclusively ran by white men with laws almost exclusively passed by white men, yet still find time out of your day to blame your problems on a black man. I guess the endless documents, videos, recordings, emails, interviews, and confessions of whites coming out & admitting to the planning and implication of the demise of black men just becomes lost on you. I guess it’s just not a part of your reality. There has been enough evidence practically HANDED to us BY WHITE PEOPLE that will shut down any and every argument you have against or blaming black people almost immediately. The fact that there’s evidence on evidence, facts on facts, of your people saying “yeah we did this to them, and it was on purpose, and it worked” means your either too lazy to research the truth yourself, or you know this exists and you’re just complaining to be the man bitch that you are. I think it’s a combination of both.You’re mad, everyone else on this website is mad, and none of you will ever in your entire lives say any of these things while standing alone in front of even two black people, let alone the same amount of white men you’re e-butt fucking on this site. NONE of you would EVER say these words, unless you had a uniform on and a gun in your hands….or in a sea of hundreds carrying tiki torches. That is the only time people like you will ever feel as brave as you’re allowed to on this site. And you wanna know why that is? Cause black people don’t give a fuck enough to get on these pages and argue with you all and I think you know that. WE DONT CARE enough or even hate you enough to do something as lame as what you all are doing here. It’s beyond pathetic, and you all are very very very very very very very very very very very very very lucky that it’s that way. You’re truly blessed by your white gods that black folks don’t have as much hate in our hearts as you do, otherwise you would already be shot dead in the back of your head as you claim we love to do.Fuck you, you anonymous microwaved marshmallow glob of shit.

I got through the section of the podcast on “Battle Cops” before I had to pull over and puke. The laundry list of talking points has been done to death. The Department of Education SWAT story comes from Radley Balko from Cato/HuffPo/WaPo fame, and has been debunked. I have never seen a SWAT team in the flesh ever. The muh foot patrol thing is junk. Most of Americans don’t live or work in walk-able areas, and I have seen officers on foot every time I have been in Baltimore. The being a cop is safer than being a garbage man thing is crap. No one is intentionally trying to murder garbage men because of their jobs. A cop said mean things to me once well cool story bro, why don’t you grow a pair? We don’t get to denounce people and have the state haul them off without having our stories checked. If that hurt your feels then man up.