Dissident Gardener #3

Behind the Green Door
2025-06-20

A little bonus content. I decided to express my inner Bill Murray from Cady Shack and take on the deer. I was just going to roll with it, but Gaia has been pushing her luck lately with all the rain, so I decided to raise the stakes. A trip to the hardware store got me fifty feet of chicken wire and ten posts, plus some weird little clip things that I spent an hour trying to understand. I gave up and used zip ties.

The next step, of course, will be plastic explosives. I am hoping it does not come to that, but in the spirit of the times, I am down for escalatory violence. The deer are weeks from getting a bomb. On the other hand, I am pretty sure the culprit was the little fawn that sleeps in the woods behind the garden and gets my cats excited in the morning. She lost her mother, but she is hanging in there so far.



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Frank Edge #129920464 june 27, 2025 04:39 pm 2
RIP Z Man. You're going to be missed down here. If any of the family sees this, lots of people are thinking of ya'll. Prayers up to you and the family.
HUMDEEDEE #127849256 june 21, 2025 12:01 am 1
The salvia, that you are calling the purple thingy, will grow back even more lush if you can keep the deer away from them. As long as there is a portion of a plant with stem and leaves remaining, having the tops eaten off is actually a good way to stimulate bushier growth. The other plants with pretty foliage are coleus and they really like the heat as long as they get water, and they are very happy to let you know when they need water because their leaves will droop dramatically. After watering they will perk back up. Don't be surprised if in late July your coleus start to look like shrubs!
cheese sandwich #127841148 june 20, 2025 11:22 pm 1
Thanks for sharing. I love these garden updates. What I dislike the most about gardening is sometimes you have to wait until next season to try something new or different. That's a long wait. You can try using scents to help deter animals. Get a spray bottle and mix it with things like Dawn dish soap, cayenne pepper, etc. and spray the perimeter. I plant Marigolds around my vegetable garden because they help deter certain pests, so it is no surprise they are being left alone. Water early in the morning if you anticipate heat. There can be a whole lot of strategy involved with gardening. It is like a real-time strategy game.
Compsci #127840784 june 20, 2025 11:20 pm 1
Deer…rats with hooves…. Here we have desert deer, White Tail and Mule Deer. Mules stand as tall as your shoulders and the males can look over our 5 foot block wall. Hell, I’ve even pet them when they come by simply by reaching over the wall. Eating garden plants is not a big problem with them. Here it’s the Javelina which come in herds of up to twenty or so. They will, when stressed, eat even the poisonous plants, rip up you drip system for water, and as a bonus, kill your dogs for annoying them. A few years ago I got to sew up a couple of the ridgebacks after they got out of the yard and tore into a herd. Temps in the 90’s…we wish for such temps. Yesterday it was 114 degrees. Today we have a cold spell of 108. Plants like your Marigolds are not a problem. They, and every other decent plant, died from the heat a month or more ago. All that grows now has thorns or is poisonous so must be handled with special gloves or your skin sloughs off. You live in paradise.
Greg Forrest #129416595 june 26, 2025 12:29 am 0
Consider using a motion-sensing sprinkler. Very little visual impact. But consider keeping it from spraying the flowers as they could get powdery mold if they don't dry off quick enough
Sheila Coyne #128146794 june 22, 2025 01:16 am 0
I always appreciate gardening . . . by others. Love beautiful plants and flowers and fresh produce, but I am just not inclined to garden myself. But Zman, you seem handy enough - build yourself a small greenhouse and you won't have to worry about critters. Someday I hope to have a greenhouse myself. Until then, I content myself with feeding the deer - had about 10 of them outside just a bit ago, fighting over the corn and oats I put out.
Chris Hensley #128106558 june 21, 2025 10:13 pm 0
If you want a vine to crawl along some lattice, you could do worse than ivy. It grows wild around here and seems to actually prefer shady areas. Now, it won't have the flowers you wanted but it does stay green all year and as keeps growing and climbing year after year. I've always liked the color of the ivy leaves. It's a sort of deep green color that makes it stand out against the regular everyday greenery
HeadsNTails #128057184 june 21, 2025 06:48 pm 0
CDs hung on string will keep deer away. They kinda twist in the breeze and the reflections scare the deer away.
HeadsNTails #128056934 june 21, 2025 06:47 pm 0
If you really want deer, plant some hostas
PHWilson #128038378 june 21, 2025 05:36 pm 0
Try deer repellent. I've had a doe cleaning out my bird feeder and she was unstoppable. I got the liquid spray as well as the pellets that you're supposed to scatter around the area. So far it's worked great.
jmalone13 #127954787 june 21, 2025 12:21 pm 0
I have Honeysuckle bushes on the border of my backyard, the darn things will grow in any kind of conditions, sun or shade, and just keep expanding unless you trim them back. They are good boundary bushes.
Chris Hensley #128105321 june 21, 2025 10:08 pm 0
Seconded. It grows wild around here and I had some growing up a tree in the corner of the yard that I got rid of but there's more coming up on fairly dark overgrown areas
Johnny Ducati #127877608 june 21, 2025 02:25 am 0
You need to learn how to grow tomatoes now that you're out in the country.
Richard W Siers #127870348 june 21, 2025 01:46 am 0
Those dusty millers, the ones you call "Hitlers" (pretty good), will get huge. We have a couple in the back yard and they will spread three feet wide. The deer won't touch them. They will eat almost everything else.
Scott Werdal #127847098 june 20, 2025 11:51 pm 0
How did i end up following a dissident "gardener"? Just because i've always been a dissident everything myself? If I ever garden actively, i hope to join the consensus for once. Once and only once.
Mike F #127844660 june 20, 2025 11:39 pm 0
The fawn probably didn't lose it's mother. The does drop them in a safe spot and go out and eat. They pick them back up later in the day/evening. We have one in our yard right now. Happens most years. Your fence will work for a while. They'll get brave enough eventually to come around the other side. We have ended up totally enclosing our flower bed with fencing. All of the other methods worked for a while - but the deer eventually got used to it and bypassed them. Besides the marigolds, daffodils are also something deer don't eat (but only flower in early spring). Lenten Rose is the only other thing that deer will not eat in our yard. In Tennessee Lenten Rose stays green all year, matures into full bushy plants about a foot or so tall, and typically starts blooming during Lent. You might try trimming your bleeding heart bush back to encourage new growth and maybe get more flowers.
The Z Man #127854344 june 21, 2025 12:26 am 1
I have not seen the doe around for a week. She was nursing the fawn last week in the back, but then she disappeared.
Mike F #127849994 june 21, 2025 12:05 am 0
Another plant in our yard that the deer have never eaten is peonies. They're easy to grow, low maintenance. Don't know if you have enough sun though.

Transcript

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I have now reached the Bill Murray from Caddyshack phase of my gardening.

I've gone from zero to 11 rather quickly.

As you can see, the little purple guys, I forget what they're called.

Let's see what we can find out together.

Let's see.

These are proven winners.

Rockin', I don't know what the hell that's supposed to be.

Well, anyway, Rockin', is that what it says?

Rockin'?

Well, I don't think I'm going to say that word.

Anyhow, some bugs got to this guy and deer got to him.

Him.

They're supposed to be deer proof.

Him and him.

So what I did is I rearranged things.

They really don't like the marigolds.

That I can definitely see.

So I put some marigolds to guard them.

While I was down buying marigolds, I saw this.

I have no idea what the hell this is, but it looks cool.

And I got these guys.

Now you can see they knolled on him.

They knolled him down to nothing.

They knolled him back, but they left the other guys alone.

And you can see there's some footprints.

I actually, I did some bunch of stuff here today, but

You can tell they've come down this way and started eating.

So what I did, as you can see here, I now have a chicken wire enclosure.

I don't know how well you can see this, but anyway.

So this, it goes all, what I did is I ran it right along the edge, as you can see here.

of this little stone doohickey thing,

which I'm still not sold on,

but for this year they're going to stay.

So it goes along here, all along this edge, then around to that edge, then down to here.

Now I still haven't gotten rid of this thing.

Since it's dying off, I won't feel so bad getting rid of it.

What I'm going to do is I'm going to put some boxwoods in here.

I'm told that boxwoods are really good deer preventers.

So as this fence stops here, I can put some boxwoods.

That means the only way they're going to be ready to eat is to come up this way

against this wall,

which is about 24 inches.

And none of the deer are that tall.

They could come up here and probably reach this first row,

but they don't like these guys either.

And they definitely don't like these guys.

I'm actually kind of regretting

not just using these things, the dusty Hitlers.

And I think they look neat.

And they're pretty... I mean, they've grown twice their size already.

So now next year.

But anyway, it'll be difficult for them.

And they don't like walking on these stones.

I've seen them avoid this deck, this area here, as you can see.

And it goes around.

I've never seen them walk on this.

They always avoid it.

So I'm...

I'm thinking kind of I'm close.

I'm close to keeping the deer out.

Now, this is not a lot of expense.

I think the chicken wire is $50 and the post or 10 of them, $50.

So I got about $100 in that.

If this does in fact work,

then the plan next year will be,

let's assume that all these plants actually live to,

September is kind of my cutoff date.

If they make it to September, then I've got a green enough thumb to make this work.

So if that works,

then I'm either going to find some sort of vine to grow on this,

and I'll replace this chicken wire with some sort of like lattice thing for

something to grow on,

and I'll get rid of these stones.

Or...

Maybe line this with some sort of shrubbery that the deer don't like,

and I can have the flowers here.

So something like that.

You know, I thought about honeysuckle, but I don't think this gets enough sun for honeysuckle.

And I don't think this area really grows a lot of honeysuckle.

I see it around, but I don't know.

It'd be nice, though.

Something with flowers would be cool.

So I don't know what kind of vines do that,

but grow up and,

you know,

maybe stay green,

come back every year.

Somebody knows that would be very helpful.

Um,

but it could,

you know,

just kind of carve out an area and just put some shrubbery in there and get rid of

the stones,

which again,

I'm kind of torn on,

not really sure.

You know, they look neat with the moss and all that, but you know, they're just really cheap.

You know, I mean, that's, these are just concrete.

They, you know, they pour into the little molds and

I see them all over the place, though.

And they're very popular at Home Depot and Lowe's.

They got mountains of the damn thing.

So I don't know.

You know, it's one of those things.

My tastes are not everybody's taste.

In other words, my tastes are kind of poor.

Well, pray for my purple guys.

Let's see if they come back to life.

I put some soil down.

It's poured rain, so they've got to be pretty good.

But the weather's going to be scorching the next week.

I mean, it's 96, 97.

It's going to be miserable.

So we'll find out.

My green thummery will be tested sorely.

But it's amazing.

Even though it rained so hard, look how dry it is already.

So anyway, we'll find out.

There's a quick update on the garden.

See you next time.


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